Taking a look at the team through three preseason games
With three preseason games in the books, I wanted to take the time to review each position (in some cases, units) as we prepare this week to play the meaningless of meaningless of preseason games, as well as upcoming roster cuts. While I'm not trying to predict the roster -- and definitely not projecting depth chart -- I didn't include every player in some scenarios, but included more than what the team is expected to take (mostly because I'm just not sure who they take, or the play is pretty even between the competition).
Quarterback - Even though Palmer has been assaulted on nearly every play (it seems), he hasn't been sharp -- likely a result of being assaulted. Twice against the Saints, Palmer nearly threw interceptions because 1) the ball was overthrown and 2) the pass was too near the middle of the field intended for a receiver sprinting down the sidelines. With the assault by the opposing pass rush, Palmer is becoming too aware of what's going on around the pocket rather than what's going on downfield. Once protection flaws are worked out, and communication issues resolved, we're confident that Palmer will be Palmer and give the Bengals their best chance to win each week.
Backup quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick has been one of the few successful offensive players, completing 70% of his passes, with a 6.8 pass-per-attempt average and a 101.3 passer rating (all team highs). His 44 yards rushing is third on the team behind Chris Perry and Kenny Watson. Fitzpatrick's performance proves he'll be a coveted unrestricted free agent next season as a "veteran" quarterback that so many teams need.
- Carson Palmer
- Ryan Fitzpatrick
- Jeff Rowe
Running Back - While it's exciting to see Chris Perry back to full strength, we've been missing our primary feature back, Rudi Johnson due to another hamstring injury -- this time to the other leg. However, along with their troubles protecting their quarterbacks, the offensive line has struggled rush blocking for Perry -- mostly Eric Ghiaciuc. Since the first game, Perry's yards-per-attempt has fallen from 3.8 to 3.4. Watson's 4.7 yards-per-attempt is encouraging, but a majority of his attempts have come against second team defenses, with only one attempt the entire game against the Saints.
I think the Bengals keep Dorsey over James Johnson. Though neither have done much this preseason, Dorsey is a more explosive back while James Johnson is eligible for the team's practice squad. If the Bengals haven't cut Jeremi by now, they won't.
- Rudi Johnson
- Chris Perry
- Kenny Watson
- DeDe Dorsey
- Jeremi Johnson
Wide Receiver - Talk about depressing. With Chad Johnson and T.J. Houshmandzadeh nursing and rehabbing injuries ("supposedly", if you believe in conspiracies), the Bengals have been searching for that evasive receiver we hoped would step up. Jerome Simpson's 144 yards receiving is far above Chatman's 63 yards among the yardage leaders at wide receiver. However, passes are being dropped and receivers are not separating from defensive backs, forcing Palmer to hold onto the ball longer. One has to appreciate this bit of irony. If Chad Johnson was traded, then this unit has absolutely no hope going into the season, even though the team signed Chris Henry to help.
I think Andre Caldwell's injury hurts him big. While he's not on the field battling for a spot, the Bengals would be more inclined to keep Holt for experience and versatility on special teams. Caldwell is another player eligible for the practice squad. This is all based on the assumption when Henry returns, not when the season starts. When Henry is reinstated after the fourth game, the Bengals will need to decide whether to keep Holt or Caldwell -- and it's doubtful, no matter what other writers suggest, that the Bengals will let Henry go.
- Chad Johnson
- T.J. Houshmandzadeh
- Antonio Chatman
- Jerome Simpson
- Glenn Holt
- Andre Caldwell
Tight End - Stable as stable comes. Ben Utecht, another glowing offensive player this preseason, leads the team with 10 receptions, second with 108 yards receiving and only one of two players with a receiving touchdown through three games. Reggie Kelly is the league's best tight end blocker, taking a lot of reps in the backfield. If the Bengals keep four tight ends (which includes long snapper Brad St. Louis), then Daniel Coats makes the team.
- Reggie Kelly
- Ben Utecht
- Daniel Coats
- Brad St. Louis
Offensive Line - We've talked about their struggles, and fantasized of a Jurassic Line. Still, the running game hasn't really taken off and the quarterbacks are struggling to focus downfield rather than the pass rush -- Bengals quarterbacks have been sacked 10 times, and knocked down three times as much. I'm not sure the Bengals will keep a second center, depending on Bobbie Williams to play that role. On the other hand, you could easily replace Nate Livings with Dan Santucci with limited fall in production. Something of note: Kyle Cook took some first-team snaps against the Saints in the third quarter.
- Levi Jones
- Andrew Whitworth
- Eric Ghiaciuc
- Bobbie Williams
- Stacy Andrews
- Willie Anderson
- Nate Livings
- Scott Kooistra
- Anthony Collins
- Dan Santucci
Defensive Line - Domata Peko has impressed me this preseason against the rush. He's working the line, challenging double teams and finding ways to stuff gaps at the point of attack. Other than that, I think this unit is just down right dreadful. Fanene and Rucker appear like average ends with limited upside, while John Thornton and Jason Shirley have made a library seem like a Metallica concert. Pat Sims, before his injury, impressed me with his aggressiveness and motor-style play. Hopefully we get him back when the season starts. While Angelo Craig has made plays, I've labeled him a practice squad player until either Rucker or Fanene (even though he signed an extension this offseason) are let go. I see no scenario in the world in which Eric Henderson makes this squad -- nor did I see any scenario that the Bengals sign Chris Henry.
- Antwan Odom (DE)
- Robert Geathers (DE)
- Johnathan Fanene (DE)
- Frostee Rucker (DE)
- John Thornton
- Domata Peko
- Jason Shirley
- Pat Sims
- Michael Myers -- I'm adding Myers here for two reasons. The team could be concerned about Shirley's upcoming court case and keeping Myers adds an insurance policy in case Pat Sims' rehabs slowly.
Linebacker - I'm actually more impressed with this unit than I thought I would be before training camp. At WILL, Keith Rivers and Brandon Johnson have combined for 28 tackles and a sack -- Rivers accounts for 17 tackles and that sack. Corey Mays has been solid at backup middle linebacker and Darryl Blackstock's two sacks leads the team. The thing I would be most concerned about is Dhani Jones' nine total tackles through three games. Ahmad Brooks had some first-team snaps at defense when Blackstock suffered a cramp against the Saints. Also expect Carl-Johan Bjork to make the team as he's exempt from the 53-man roster.
- Dhani Jones
- Keith Rivers
- Darryl Blackstock
- Rashad Jeanty
- Corey Mays
- Brandon Johnson
- Jim Maxwell
- Ahmad Brooks
- Anthony Hoke (?)
Secondary - For the most part, I think our starting cornerbacks have done a decent job working on an island. For the plays that you see them get beat, either a dump-truck named Calvin Johnson used his super-size advantage, or the quarterback found a hole in zone coverage. I don't like the play of our safeties -- Dexter Jackson is Dexter Jackson and Marvin White still struggles keeping the receiver in front preventing long plays. White is a hitter though, and his efforts to make sure-tackles have improved greatly since the first game.
David Jones scares the hell out of me, and I don't see much of an improvement with Castille. O'Neal has accepted his role, and done well, as the team's third cornerback giving the Bengals good depth at the position.
- Leon Hall (CB)
- Johnathan Joseph (CB)
- Deltha O'Neal (CB)
- David Jones (CB)
- Simeon Castille (CB)
- Dexter Jackson (S)
- Marvin White (S)
- Chinedum Ndukwe (S)
- Corey Lynch (S)
- Herana-Daze Jones (S) -- mostly for his special teams work.
Anyway, those are my impressions at this point. If you have more, or want to adjust my impressions because I always miss at least one player (or two) when I do these things, it's all yours.
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Stacy Andrews is still not the heir apparent
The problem with projecting Stacy Andrews the heir apparent to Willie Anderson is that Andrews isn't signed beyond this season. And with the going-rate of quality tackles in the league today, you have to believe that the Bengals may struggle to sign Andrews to a long-term deal -- which, in reality, they have been. It's not that the Bengals won't be able to afford it; rather they're interpretation of value is often different than what other high-paying teams may consider. On the other hand, as the salary cap expands, so do the chances of signing Andrews.
Even though Anderson is signed through 2011, it's highly unlikely that he'll see it to the end; either through retirement or simply the team waiving the second best offensive tackle in franchise history (sorry, I'm biased... Willie is my guy). Furthermore, Levi Jones' deal grows a decent amount after 2009 while Andrew Whitworth also sees a constant $3 million number. This brings a cautious mind forward, wondering if the Bengals will add to the increasing value of the team's offensive linemen we have signed long-term. Of course, the key to figuring out a player's impact against the cap is the bonuses signed that protract throughout the lifetime of the contract -- which is added to the base salary (and is not always made available).
The follow is a chart of what the offensive line is scheduled to earn (dollars are in the millions, in case you needed that bit of instruction):
| Willie | Levi | Bobbie | Whit | Stacy | |
| 2008 | $3.15 | $3.0 | $2.0 | $.6 | $7.455 |
| 2009 | $2.7 | $3.0 | $2.4 | $2.2 | -- |
| 2010 | $3.2 | $3.75 | -- | $3.0 | -- |
| 2011 | $3.45 | $4.55 | -- | $3.25 | -- |
| 2012 | -- | $5.0 | -- | $3.185 | -- |
| -- | -- | -- | $3.4 | -- |
| Eric G. | Collins | Kooistra | |
| 2008 | $927,000 | $295,000 | $605,000 |
| 2009 | -- | $385,000 | $620,000 |
| 2010 | -- | $447,000 | |
| 2011 | -- | $555,000 |
The Bengals claim that Andrews, Houshmandzadeh and Shayne Graham are their priorities to get deals done before becoming unrestricted free agents after this season. While it's speculated that Houshmandzadeh is staging his own silent protest, and Andrews is under a heavy cap-hitting franchise deal, any growth on Graham's deal is quiet (though he's the most likely free agent to re-sign with the Bengals... but that's just a guess).
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Tuesday morning links and notes -- Bengals win, 20-17
Questions answered? Before the game, I threw up 10 questions. Not sure if any were answered, and it's foolish to take the first pre-season game and project the team as anything. Still, let's answer the questions after the Bengals 20-17 win Monday Night.
1) #3 Wide Receiver
Marcus Maxwell had a nice 19-yard reception and a nine-yarder. Maxwell's frame and technique reminds me of a green T.J. Houshmandzadeh. Hey, it took T.J. a long time to prove he was worth anything. Jerome Simpson showed good athleticism and Andre Caldwell hauled down an 11-yard pass for first down. It's not that any receiver played bad -- other than bad routes, or blown up plays, which we hardly know about -- but who really stepped up in your opinion.
2) Defensive tackle rotation and rookie DTs Sims and Shirley.
Domata Peko had several nice plays, pushing off the offensive linemen and strafing down the line of scrimmage for, at least, a hit. Jason Shirley, as the game progressed, seemed to get to the quarterback easier, and it seemed that boy has a motor. Admittedly, I don't have HD, and pointing out DTs are often hard enough for me. So it could have been Pat Sims. All and all, the Packers rushing offense was successful after Brandon Jackson and Kregg Lumpkin rushed 13 times for 80 yards (6.2 yards-per-carry).
3) Tight end contribution (an idea of the passing offense’s philosophy, which includes double-TE formations)
Reggie Kelly caught a five-yard pass -- the first completion by the Bengals. Ryan Fitzpatrick targeted Utecht twice, and Palmer looked at him three times -- first was incomplete, second was a four-yard gain and the third was a 14-yard touchdown pass.
4) Pass rush (includes Fanene and Rucker's improvements?)
Rucker and Fanene were nonexistent in the pass rush, though Robert Geathers sprinted around the tackle to pick up an early sack. Most of the success came from the team blitzing linebackers and safeties (Jackson, Herbert).
5) Keith Rivers, Chris Perry, rookie WRs (Caldwell, Simpson)
Rivers was as advertised. Chris Perry was back. Caldwell and Simpson made some nice grabs. I was generally happy with all four.
6) Offensive line combinations (Bobbie Williams at center?)
It's hard to praise the offensive line after the Bengals first-team started the game with three three-and-outs before picking up a first down and a touchdown. I don't recall seeing Williams at center, Santucci replaced Eric Ghiaciuc and Kyle Cook replaced Santucci after it was reported that the backup center broke his right ankle. Stacy Andrews didn't play long, out before the end of the first quarter replaced by Scott Kooistra after Willie Anderson was told to sit the game with a minor shoulder problem.
7) Is Kenny Watson better than last season?
I didn't pick up that Watson was better than last year on the minimal attempts he was given. At the same time, I didn't see a bit of degradation either.
8) Daniel Coats blocking out of the backfield.
I just didn't make it a point to watch him blocking. At the same time, that's a good thing. When a blocker does his job, neither he or the person he blocks make an impact on the play and become essentially invisible.
9) Aggressive cornerbacks, disrupting timing off the LOS (defensive coverage philosophy)
For the most part, I was happy with our cornerback play. Sometimes the receiver would pick up a step on the cornerback, or David Jones was on the field -- who had a rough, rough start.
10) Linebackers (Dhani, year 2… Brandon Johnson and Darryl Johnson, Arizona Cardinal cast-offs)
With Rivers being an obvious positive, and Brandon Johnson holding firm his stepping-up role, I thought the Bengals linebackers were generally positive, though again, the Packers ran the ball pretty well -- which is against the linebackers and defensive line.
By The Numbers
- Bengals converted only four of 15 third down attempts while the Packers converted eight of 17.
- Two penalties by the Bengals as a whole -- Frostee Rucker was offsides and Nate Livings false started. The off-sides by Rucker allowed the Packers to pick up a first down on third-and-three. After picking up the first down, Rodgers converted a 22-yard pass (then an incomplete), an 11-yard pass and then a 30-yard touchdown.
- The Packers picked up 15 first downs through the air -- however, they passed 53 times.
- The Bengals play selection: 27 pass attempts, 33 rush attempts.
- Bengals special teams allowed 40 yards on six punt returns.
- Bengals defense allowed four plays of 20-yards or more -- the longest play by the Bengals was a 19-yard pass reception by Marcus Maxwell.
The Ryan Fitzgerald offense before the end of the first half, utilized Ben Utecht and Chris Perry, combining for three catches for 25 yards giving Shayne Graham a 43-yard field goal attempt.
Palmer on Utecht and Perry: "(Perry) can stay in the backfield and pick up a safety pressure and get outside with runs. With Ben, his versatility is he can get back in the backfield on the run game and he can (pass block) in max protection."
Moving Bobbie Williams to center could be a possibility after reports claim that Dan Santucci suffered a broken right ankle.
Corey Lynch, in last weekend's scrimmages, had two interceptions and a sack. On Monday Night, he had a fumble recovery and two tackles on special teams.
Marvin "Mr. Obvious" says: "But we have to tackle better. Our tackling really left something to be desired."
Marvin White learned a lesson Monday Night. "It's not like college, where you pretty much hit a guy and he does down. I learned something from this game. That's the idea. Learn something every game."
Mike Zimmer was satisfied with the Bengals defense Monday Night, "we're not the '85 Bears. But for the first time, it was OK."
Antonio Chatman "endorses Packer Rodgers".
Former Bengals safety Madieu Williams is lost for up to six weeks due to an undisclosed injury.
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Offensive line is the best during the Marvin Lewis era?
Typically it takes the offense a great deal more time to grasp timing routes, blocking schemes and projecting defensive alignments for blocking assignments. Out of the gates, the defense has a leg up since a defensive playbook requires less coordination than the offense, imploring more instinct.
If the Bengals defense can come out of the gates early, playing to the tune of the pre-season music of an aggressive secondary, a passing disrupting defensive line, and an intelligent linebacker crew, then the Bengals will have to rely less on the offense. And in truth, since 2003, the Bengals as a team only do as well as the offensive unit does. It's always been the way of things and the major reason why Marvin Lewis is constantly in the cross-airs of those that somehow think that the Bengals front office will find a coach that will improve the team further.
You also have to wonder if this offense will be better than previous seasons to start any season. The Bengals have started the same two wide receivers, the same feature back, the same tight end and quarterback for several seasons now. The offensive line is a different story after Levi Jones and Willie Anderson struggled last year to recover from injury before the season even started. Andrew Whitworth and Stacy Andrews were rotated around the line, albeit brilliantly, but there's something to be said about having a home. And Eric Ghiaciuc started feeling the heat of an inability to block bigger defensive tackles in the trenches.
This year, the offensive line is ready, healthy and arguably, the strongest it's been since 2005 when we had Eric Steinbach and Richie Braham dominating the middle of the line with Eric Ghiaciuc being the lone weak link -- hopefully he's improved. You also have to wonder if the offensive line would be better with Bobbie Williams at center, flanked by Andrew Whitworth and Stacy Andrews with Levi Jones and Willie Anderson as the bookends. I know it's not really a possibility, though the idea is pretty fantastic when you combine the weight of all men and come a few pounds short of a ton.
The offensive line projects Eric Ghiaciuc at center, flanked by Williams and Whitworth with Andrews and Jones at tackle. Willie Anderson and Anthony Collins are the logic second-team tackles with Nate Livings and Scott Kooistra backing up the guards. Still, the weakness is at center, with Ghiaciuc starting over Dan Santucci and Kyle Cook. And truthfully, we know very little of the backup centers; though if OTAs and training camp reports of Whitworth and Williams taking snaps at center is any indication, then the center position is truly the weakest part of our offensive line.
Based on the fact the Bengals took nine offensive linemen last season, I'm going to project the guys that make the squad for this season in no particular order.
- Willie Anderson
- Levi Jones
- Andrew Whitworth
- Stacy Andrews
- Bobbie Williams
- Eric Ghiaciuc
- Scott Kooistra
- Anthony Collins
- Nate Livings
It's not unreasonable to believe that the Bengals will keep only one center with the flexibility to move other linemen out of position (aka, the Jurassic Line).
This all brings me to this. Is this roster of offensive line the best we've seen during the Marvin Lewis era?
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Bengals should look at drafting several offensive linemen
Since I've done a great job at making this site seem like a broken record, I thought it would be best to continue that trend with draft talk. We've talked wide receiver, linebacker, wide receiver, cornerbacks, wide receiver, defensive line, running back and wide receiver since January. Let's take a closer look at offensive line -- which we started in April.
Mark Curnutte's latest suggests that the team is "considering using one of their 10 picks this weekend on an offensive tackle from an exceptionally deep, talented pool - or add depth in the middle at guard and center."
It's never a bad thing to stock on linemen -- the biggest success or failure of any team goes through the line. Even though the offensive line did quality work keeping Carson Palmer's sack total low (17), the line, at times, was simply awful run blocking.
Does the team really need to draft a tackle?
Marvin Lewis says that Levi Jones and Willie Anderson are healthier than last year and still improving. Stacy Andrews, the team's franchise player, will likely start the season on the bench. Scott Kooistra is signed through 2009 and played as expected with his role. This should also include Andrew Whitworth who started his career at left tackle subbing for an injured Levi Jones in 2006 -- until Dwight Freeney owned him -- to left guard replacing the departed Eric Steinbach.
Which brings us to guard.
I've never thought that the Bengals should move a left tackle to guard. Our offense is thick and beastly, but not nibble or swift. While Whitworth does pull, there are times when his lack of speed to the edges are a problem; slowing up the running back anticipating holes. Not all the time, but noticeable nonetheless. He's simply no Eric Steinbach -- though Steinbach was pretty damned good and expecting similar talent out of this year's draft might be too optimistic.
It's not that I think Whitworth is unable to play the position -- I thought he did fine. But I do think he should be the team's heir at left tackle if Jones doesn't improve in 2008 from injury the past two seasons. Andrews, if he signs a long-term deal (and that's important to note, obviously), is Willie Anderson's natural replacement. If Andrews doesn't sign a long-term deal, then Whitworth will have to be the team's backup tackle and heir to right tackle -- thus supports the case for drafting another offensive tackle. The point here is that a scenario exists that Andrews could sign elsewhere next off-season and Anderson could retire. Whitworth or drafted tackle? An interesting thought. If the Bengals do acquire a first round pick in next year's draft for Chad Johnson, what better luxury would you have replenishing your line based on questions that could go unanswered leading up to next year's draft?
But I think we need a natural guard. Our biggest folly was letting Steinbach go for extended contracts for our bookends. Marvin Lewis did speak highly of Nate Livings, so maybe he should be included somewhere.
But I'm really concerned about Center.
Eric Ghiaciuc really struggled last year. When Rudi Johnson stopped in his tracks, it was Ghiaciuc's guy that penetrated the backfield more than any other defensive lineman. Lewis has called out Ghiaciuc in the need to improve. Especially in a division with Haloti Ngata (340 pounds), Shaun Rogers (340 pounds) and Casey Hampton (325 pounds). If Ghiaciuc can't manage against these beasts, then what do we expect any running back to do? Though, like Livings, Dan Santucci was given approval from Lewis, "Santucci is a guy we feel good about in the future."
I wouldn't have a problem if the Bengals decide to go after several offensive linemen to revamp the depth to strengthen the running game. Thoughts?
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